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	<title>Comments on: The Hell of Obama&#8217;s Proposed Healthcare System for America</title>
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		<title>By: Health Care Reform Debate &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Health Care Reform Debate &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 00:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve not heard this health care option expressed before... your alternative has a lot of merit, Fred. Thanks for putting another valid &quot;outside of the box&quot; option out there for us to consider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not heard this health care option expressed before&#8230; your alternative has a lot of merit, Fred. Thanks for putting another valid &#8220;outside of the box&#8221; option out there for us to consider.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred  Chittenden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred  Chittenden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 23:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO, the key is to think out of the box (not deeper into the hole) for solutions.  In the case of health care, one of the simplest solutions is to allow health care providers to deduct the uncompensated portion of any welfare/charity care from their income.  While a grocery store can donate a thousand cans of soup to some food bank and get a tax deduction for their charity, this isn&#039;t currently an option for health care providers.   

Currently Medicaid/SCHIP pays about 40% or less the regular cost of care -- not enough to cover costs in many cases.   Hence, many health care providers currently provide little to no Medicaid care.  If charity care were allowed to be tax deductible, you&#039;d have providers falling all over themselves to provide top quality care -- FREE FROM RED TAPE of Medicare, SCHIP and Medicaid. 

 Unlike welfare programs, this would self limiting for providers as one can&#039;t provide more services than one has income to deduct.   

 Also, the &#039;uncompensated&#039; portion would provide a check and balance against politicians short changing providers with lower and lower payments for Medicare, Medicaid and SCHIP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO, the key is to think out of the box (not deeper into the hole) for solutions.  In the case of health care, one of the simplest solutions is to allow health care providers to deduct the uncompensated portion of any welfare/charity care from their income.  While a grocery store can donate a thousand cans of soup to some food bank and get a tax deduction for their charity, this isn&#8217;t currently an option for health care providers.   </p>
<p>Currently Medicaid/SCHIP pays about 40% or less the regular cost of care &#8212; not enough to cover costs in many cases.   Hence, many health care providers currently provide little to no Medicaid care.  If charity care were allowed to be tax deductible, you&#8217;d have providers falling all over themselves to provide top quality care &#8212; FREE FROM RED TAPE of Medicare, SCHIP and Medicaid. </p>
<p> Unlike welfare programs, this would self limiting for providers as one can&#8217;t provide more services than one has income to deduct.   </p>
<p> Also, the &#8216;uncompensated&#8217; portion would provide a check and balance against politicians short changing providers with lower and lower payments for Medicare, Medicaid and SCHIP.</p>
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		<title>By: AFVET</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFVET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We happen to live about a quarter of a mile from our hospital.
Life-Flight, a chopper, visits that hospital 3 to 4 times a week.
I know, it shakes our house when it lands, 24/7/365.

The fact that Quebec has no airborne rescue is unbelievable.

We have got to take this country back asap, but I fear that the only thing we can do is get to 2010 to fix the majorities in congress.
By that time, Obama will have had his will imposed on our country.

There has got to be an &quot;out&quot; written into those bills so that they can be rescinded, revoked, whatever.

Now, as per Glenn Beck, Barney &quot;big boy?&quot; Frank is running a bill through congress to bail out California.

Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, and Michigan are in line with a similar financial situation.

Excellent Post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We happen to live about a quarter of a mile from our hospital.<br />
Life-Flight, a chopper, visits that hospital 3 to 4 times a week.<br />
I know, it shakes our house when it lands, 24/7/365.</p>
<p>The fact that Quebec has no airborne rescue is unbelievable.</p>
<p>We have got to take this country back asap, but I fear that the only thing we can do is get to 2010 to fix the majorities in congress.<br />
By that time, Obama will have had his will imposed on our country.</p>
<p>There has got to be an &#8220;out&#8221; written into those bills so that they can be rescinded, revoked, whatever.</p>
<p>Now, as per Glenn Beck, Barney &#8220;big boy?&#8221; Frank is running a bill through congress to bail out California.</p>
<p>Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, and Michigan are in line with a similar financial situation.</p>
<p>Excellent Post!</p>
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