Posted By Vicki McClure Davidson on July 2, 2009

A commenter wrote on a previous post his beliefs that “his man” Dave Reichert, a Washington state representative and one of the “Turncoat Eight” Republicans (more accurately, RINOs) who voted for the Waxman-Markey global warming, cap-and-tax-Americans-into-oblivion energy bill, did the right thing. I’ve included his posted comment, without any changes or corrections, below.

My Republican Congressman Says Cap and Trade is Good for America.

And, he caught the Green River Killer.

Did you catch the Green River Killer?

No, no you didn’t.

You can hear his interview here.

http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=194&sid=184941

Dave Reichert SPEAKS: says Cap and Trade will be good for America

He argued that the expense would not be what the Heartland Institute, Heritage Foundation, and Wall Street Journal were predicting. He argued that it would cost around $.48 per day and that we would have better national security, more nuclear, coal and refining capabilities, and a cleaner environment with the bill. He argued that the conservative arguments against were mistaken, and that Washington specifically would be better off even though the bill was imperfect.

And, he caught the Green River Killer.

Yeah, it took him a couple of decades, but better late than never.

I hear Fox was thinking about making the Series 24 about Reichert. But instead of showing 24 hours in a day they would have to make each episode a year.

Disjointed, non sequitur post, but at least the writer didn’t call me a string of four-letter words, which happens with regularity. I’ve not made it a practice to use a commenter’s comment as the nucleus for a blog post, but thought it made for a nice fit with Michelle Malkin’s post today about Dave Reichert.

Excerpt from Michelle Malkin: Cap-and-Tax 8 Watch: Dave Reichert’s rationalization

I’m hearing from many old friends and readers that GOP Rep. Dave Reichert in Washington state is in hot water over his cap-and-tax vote.

KVI talk show host and GOP activist Kirby Wilbur says the vote was “make or break” for grass-roots conservatives in the 8th district. Party precinct officers, donors, and volunteers have been flooding phone lines in opposition to Reichert’s vote. Washington state conservatives on Facebook bombarded Wilbur’s page with hundreds and hundreds of comments after last Friday’s vote.

GOP party leaders have tried to quell the revolt, but are only digging themselves a deeper hole. Kirby told me he received a solicitation from the NRCC signed by John Boehner asking GOP activists for money to fight Democrats who voted for cap-and-tax.

Insert bitter laughter here.

Back to the Dave Reichert fan’s comments at the top of the post.

How do you deal with someone who obviously loves his congressman, but is illogical and misinformed? Sigh.

My response, firm but kind, to him is below… don’t know if I succeeded in getting my message through to him, but that’s OK, because my main mission is to give conservatives more knowledge on how to present facts to fairly and factually counter and disarm left-wing extremists and their global warming bunk. You know you’ve “won” when they don’t answer your questions or bring up things that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic. Here’s the response I posted:

Mr. Reichert’s background as a diligent law enforcer is well known. It does not qualify him, however, as an expert on the economical turmoil and financial devastation that the Waxman-Markey cap and trade will inflict.

To echo your method of argumentation, MY senator is John McCain, a POW and war hero. He has called Obama’s cap and trade bill a grave mistake that will hurt Americans. This week, he said in an interview, “In its present form, which is cap-and-tax. … It’s really terrible, because I believe that climate change is real, I believe it is something that we need to address, and I’m sure that a lot of Americans do, but to do so with a bill like this? … What [the Obama administration is] doing is using cap-and-trade…to raise billions of dollars so they can spend money on Cash for Clunkers, you know, buying General Motors and Banks and the world’s largest insurance company. … So it started on the wrong path and now it’s just turned into, you know, it’s laws and sausages at its worst in my view.”

So, “your guy” caught a killer and “my guy” is an honored war hero and POW – that’s a stalemate. I’m not in McCain’s camp for global warming, but just using him as an example of the fallacious argumentation you employed.

You’ve omitted that there are thousands of scientists who dispute the existence of global warming. And there’s that pesky problem with the EPA suppressing information from a report that derailed or criticized the faulty data used to try to prove the existence of global warming. An investigation is forthcoming on that suppression.

How can Reichert confidently assess a dollar amount on the impact a bill will have on our GDP and the financial impact on all Americans’ energy use when 300 pages of it was added at the last minute on Friday and has not been thoroughly reviewed by ANYONE in the US House, including the Energy Czar, and 1200 pages of it has not been made available for more than a week?

It’s weird that you asked me or readers if WE had captured a killer like Reichert had. What kind of a question is that? Total non sequitur, as is most of your post. It’s illogical to ask when assessing the impact of a cap-and-tax energy bill. Not really sure what you were trying to prove with that wacky rhetoric. And being the subject of a proposed TV show about catching a killer is totally irrelevant to this topic.

You said Reichert said it “would cost around $.48 per day and that we would have better national security…” Impossible. Cap and trade is all about mandates, increased rules, and penalties to grab taxpayers’ dollars under the guise of protecting the planet from humans. I’m clueless how this has anything to with national security. And this $0.48 he cites, is it per person, or per family, or per household, or per business for gasoline, electricity, coal use, natural gas use? In a 24-hour day, that would be just 2 pennies more per hour. Did he conveniently forget about how this bill will increase the cost of EVERYTHING? After reading through a small bit of the bill, 2 pennies more per hour is utter poppycock. One new law in the energy bill is that homeowners must fulfill a slew of requirements and spend potentially thousands of dollars on “green improvements” on their homes before they can LEGALLY sell them, and homes must be inspected first by a new government branch (which I’ll call the Housing Nazi Czar, for lack of the real term) before they are GIVEN PERMISSION TO SELL THEIR HOMES. Is this Cuba or Russia? George Orwell nailed it in 1984 about “Big Brother” watching…

Reichert said he was right and Heartland Institute, Heritage Foundation, and Wall Street Journal are wrong? That is exceedingly arrogant, I’m afraid. I read the comments left by people who visited the website you provided me. Every one of the comments posted were highly non-supportive of his interview, and decried him for his naivete on the “big picture” financial impact of the Waxman-Markey bill. There was also mention about how he stumbled on ANWR, and one commenter said he flat-out lied. I didn’t listen to the interview… after reading the comments, I think I have a good idea as to what he babbled about.

Since Reichert said HE was right and Heartland Institute, Heritage Foundation, and WSJ are wrong, he would likely say that he knows more on this topic than does Steven Milloy, respected founder of JunkScience.com, who has scientifically debunked global warming as a hoax. Milloy holds a B.A. in Natural Sciences from the Johns Hopkins University, a Master of Health Sciences in Biostatistics from the Johns Hopkins University School of Hygiene and Public Health, a Juris Doctorate from the University of Baltimore, and a Master of Laws from the Georgetown University Law Center. He has also authored more than 500 articles or columns, many of which expose global warming as a hoax or science using selective or faulty data. How many science or economic degrees does Reichert hold? How much formal education on the subject, outside of politics, does Reichert actually have?

Reichert would also have to say that Dr. Bruce West, a distinguished researcher with the Army Research Office who has done extensive studies on the sun impacting our climate more than man-made conditions, is also wrong.

Tell me again why catching a killer makes Reichert a global warming energy taxation bill expert? And how did he determine that all these other respected resources and science experts are wrong, but he is right? With all due respect, Reichert is a Republican turncoat, and I have respect for him as a former law enforcer, but not as a member of Congress who sold America up the river by voting for this money-grab “tax the hell out of Americans” bogus energy bill.

Additional reading:
Fire Andrea Mitchell!: Dave Reichert – one of the Crap and Traitor 8s in deep sh** in Washington State
Rasmussen Reports: 56% Don’t Want To Pay More To Fight Global Warming
Dwight Schultz, Big Hollywood: Obama’s EPA Ignores Inconvenient Truths
Prison Planet: IPCC Scientists Caught Producing False Data To Push Global Warming
Reason Magazine Online: Let’s Do Something—Anything
Frugal Café Blog Zone: Just How Bad Is the HR 2454 Energy Tax Bill? Greenpeace Won’t Back It and Who’s Read This?? Waxman Just Added 300 More Pages to H.R. 2454, Waxman-Markey Energy Tax Bill (video)
Michelle Malkin: Cap-and-tax 8 hypocrisy watch: Reichert’s GaGa gag and Cap and Tax 8 Watch: A letter to Dave Reichert and Here is the cap-and-tax “placeholder”: Where’s the fine print? and Cap-and-tax: Inhofe says it’s “dead in the water” and Cap and trade regulations: Do you trust this man? and Obama to Democrats: Lincoln wants you to pass cap and trade and Video: EPA dissenter Alan Carlin speaks and Cap-and-Tax 8 Watch: Follow the money and Cap-and-tax job loss chart of the day; Plus: A Senate reading assignment
The Daley Gator: One of the Turncoat Eight RINOs explains his vote for cap and trade
VotingFemale Speaks! Cap and Trade GOP Eight; The Sellouts of America
Hot Air: Video: Pelosi’s national energy tax and Video: Energy Czar hasn’t read cap & tax, either
The West Coast Outpost: Obama voters about to get punk’d
Burt Prelutsky, Big Hollywood: Principles? Leftists Don’t Need No Stinking Principles
The Patriot’s Mind: EPA Suppressed Own Report that Questions Global Warming!
RedState: Meet Carol Browner, Energy Czar.
Leigh Scott, Big Hollywood: Kill Polar Bears, Drink Coke to Save the Planet!
The Sundries Shack: At Least You’ll Get A Nice Quill Pen and Inkpot
Scared Monkeys: Unbelievable: Carol Browner, Energy Czar Questioned as to Whether She Read Cap & Trade Bill … Answer, No!
Vets On The Watch: Earth Cooling Not Warming
Lookin’ Fer Learnin’: A glimpse into Democrat sausage making.
The Radio Patriot: Tell Me Again Tapscott – Not Traitors?
Breitbart.com: Calif. Rep. Waxman hospitalized after fainting
The American Pundit: Greenpeace Opposes Cap-and-Trade Bill
Founding Bloggers: Nothing Says Global Warming Like 59 Degrees On July 1st!
Bob Gale, Big Hollywood: The Brevity Act: Time for a 28th Amendment
The Heartland Institute: Global Warming Alarmists Sabotage Wikipedia Entries
John Romano, Big Hollywood: Climate Change Republicans
New York Times: Tierney Lab: U.S. Climate Report Assailed
MasterResource: Climate Impacts of Waxman-Markey (the IPCC-based arithmetic of no gain)
Pronk Palisades: Time To Sound The Alarm: Call Your Representative and Senators–Cap and Trade Bill to be voted in U.S. House on Friday–Kill The Cap and Trade Energy Tax Today!
Hot Air: Cap and trade vote today, complete with AP spin; Update: 300-page, last-minute amendment and WSJ: Cap-and-tax a great deal … if you don’t measure the costs and Hope and change: New WSJ poll shows America souring on Obamanomics?

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