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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A reduction &quot;by&quot; is not the same as a reduction &quot;of.&quot;  A reduction &quot;by&quot; means you divide (by), ie if an employer pays $10,000, a 3000% reduction is $10,000/ 3000% = $333. In other words if they paid $333 now, they saw a 3000% reduction. A reduction &quot;of&quot; would be $10,000 multiplied by 3000% giving you the crazy numbers, and that wouldn’t be a reduction!  It would have been simpler if he had said employers may be paying up to 3% &quot;of&quot; their current cost.  But then what sounds more profound, 3 or 3000?  After-all it is politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reduction &#8220;by&#8221; is not the same as a reduction &#8220;of.&#8221;  A reduction &#8220;by&#8221; means you divide (by), ie if an employer pays $10,000, a 3000% reduction is $10,000/ 3000% = $333. In other words if they paid $333 now, they saw a 3000% reduction. A reduction &#8220;of&#8221; would be $10,000 multiplied by 3000% giving you the crazy numbers, and that wouldn’t be a reduction!  It would have been simpler if he had said employers may be paying up to 3% &#8220;of&#8221; their current cost.  But then what sounds more profound, 3 or 3000?  After-all it is politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Pelosi does NOT have the votes to pass ObamaCare, no matter what ANY Progressive says &#171; VotingFemale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pelosi does NOT have the votes to pass ObamaCare, no matter what ANY Progressive says &#171; VotingFemale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Frugal Café: Priceless: Phone Meltdown in DC Against ObamaCare, DC Tea Party Protest Rally Inspiring… Keep It Up, America! (video)  and Pelosi’s Woodstock Flashback: Peace, Love, &amp; ObamaCare Will Let You Quit Your Day Job to Be an Artist or Writer!  and  Obama’s Math Lie: Health Care Premiums Will Decrease 3,000%, So You Should Get a Raise When/If Oba... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dominatrix Pelosi&#8217;s All DEM Female House Posse; looks like Stupak is winning &#171; VotingFemale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominatrix Pelosi&#8217;s All DEM Female House Posse; looks like Stupak is winning &#171; VotingFemale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Obama's Math Lie: Health Care Premiums Will Decrease 3000%, So You … Terms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama's Math Lie: Health Care Premiums Will Decrease 3000%, So You … Terms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: They are about to find out how stupid we really are &#171; Diary of a Mad Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>They are about to find out how stupid we really are &#171; Diary of a Mad Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MoonUnit</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoonUnit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democrats would rather &quot;feel&quot; than &quot;think&quot; -- looks like their empty suit of a Moron in Chief has them under his thumb with not only reinventing America, but reinventing math. Way to go, Obambi!

Wonder what the MSM would have done if GW Bush had been this stupid with this 3000% reduction statement? But if Barry O says something this ridiculous and idiotic, the media turns away and hopes no one notices. Only lefties wouldn&#039;t notice - they still think health care will be free and that AGW is real.

I want to see his school records - I&#039;m not even sure any more that he graduated from high school let alone HARVARD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats would rather &#8220;feel&#8221; than &#8220;think&#8221; &#8212; looks like their empty suit of a Moron in Chief has them under his thumb with not only reinventing America, but reinventing math. Way to go, Obambi!</p>
<p>Wonder what the MSM would have done if GW Bush had been this stupid with this 3000% reduction statement? But if Barry O says something this ridiculous and idiotic, the media turns away and hopes no one notices. Only lefties wouldn&#8217;t notice &#8211; they still think health care will be free and that AGW is real.</p>
<p>I want to see his school records &#8211; I&#8217;m not even sure any more that he graduated from high school let alone HARVARD.</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Would you deny voter registration to the men and women who served this country if they were under the age of 35 ?
Many of them do not yet own property.&lt;/i&gt;

No, actually I would not.  My son is one of those young men and women who went into harm&#039;s way to serve this country.  He has a great mind and is a good Constitutional conservative!

I just say that from time to time because I get so angry at the brainwashing that turns all these young-uns into entitlement-hungry citizens.  We live in a university town (three of my kids attend there) and it is frustrating living in this Marxist stronghold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Would you deny voter registration to the men and women who served this country if they were under the age of 35 ?<br />
Many of them do not yet own property.</i></p>
<p>No, actually I would not.  My son is one of those young men and women who went into harm&#8217;s way to serve this country.  He has a great mind and is a good Constitutional conservative!</p>
<p>I just say that from time to time because I get so angry at the brainwashing that turns all these young-uns into entitlement-hungry citizens.  We live in a university town (three of my kids attend there) and it is frustrating living in this Marxist stronghold.</p>
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		<title>By: AFVET</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFVET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you deny voter registration to the men and women who served this country if they were under the age of 35 ?
Many of them do not yet own property.

On the contrary, our military men and women see what is happening back here and are opposed to it.

Statistics generally skew to the average of the general populace&#039;s point of view.
And it&#039;s true !

Aspire to be above average in all things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you deny voter registration to the men and women who served this country if they were under the age of 35 ?<br />
Many of them do not yet own property.</p>
<p>On the contrary, our military men and women see what is happening back here and are opposed to it.</p>
<p>Statistics generally skew to the average of the general populace&#8217;s point of view.<br />
And it&#8217;s true !</p>
<p>Aspire to be above average in all things.</p>
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		<title>By: FamilyFoundationBlog.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; If ObamaCare Is Based On ObamaMath, No Wonder The Plan Is Horrible!</title>
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		<dc:creator>FamilyFoundationBlog.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; If ObamaCare Is Based On ObamaMath, No Wonder The Plan Is Horrible!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you may have heard the Smartest President Ever yesterday (Frugal Cafe) give his latest health care takeover pep talk, or at least some sound bytes. You might not have [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t have to take &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; math to be a lawyer.  Statistics maybe...which is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; real math.

This conversation about statistics was reported to me by one of my kids who overheard it while matriculating on the local university campus:

&lt;blockquote&gt;\No, Statistics isn&#039;t real math. I mean, you take two guys and feed one six meals a day, the other no meals a day for a month. Statistics say they both had 3 meals a day, but it doesn&#039;t account for the fact that one is dead.\ \There is a standard dev...\ \The standard dev here is just figuring ...out a better way to tell who&#039;s dead. Like I said, not real math.\&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Unfortunately college students are particularly susceptible to Obumma&#039;s lies and manipulations.  A good reason to deny voter registration to anyone under 35, anyone who does not own property, anyone who does not work for a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to take <i>real</i> math to be a lawyer.  Statistics maybe&#8230;which is <i>not</i> real math.</p>
<p>This conversation about statistics was reported to me by one of my kids who overheard it while matriculating on the local university campus:</p>
<blockquote><p>\No, Statistics isn&#8217;t real math. I mean, you take two guys and feed one six meals a day, the other no meals a day for a month. Statistics say they both had 3 meals a day, but it doesn&#8217;t account for the fact that one is dead.\ \There is a standard dev&#8230;\ \The standard dev here is just figuring &#8230;out a better way to tell who&#8217;s dead. Like I said, not real math.\</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately college students are particularly susceptible to Obumma&#8217;s lies and manipulations.  A good reason to deny voter registration to anyone under 35, anyone who does not own property, anyone who does not work for a living.</p>
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		<title>By: AFVET</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFVET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is again preying on the ignorant.

This man is a menace.
We&#039;ll wait for Larry Summers to correct Obama&#039;s math.
We&#039;ll wait forever.
Obama is not ignorant, he is stupid.

Rush just said that the person who &#039;fainted&#039; during Obama&#039;s speech in Cleveland, had made a remark against Obama&#039;s rhetoric.
The police took the person away.
Why wouldn&#039;t they give him/her CPR, or tend to them on the scene?
Is this the Secret Service doing this, or thugs assigned to Obama?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is again preying on the ignorant.</p>
<p>This man is a menace.<br />
We&#8217;ll wait for Larry Summers to correct Obama&#8217;s math.<br />
We&#8217;ll wait forever.<br />
Obama is not ignorant, he is stupid.</p>
<p>Rush just said that the person who &#8216;fainted&#8217; during Obama&#8217;s speech in Cleveland, had made a remark against Obama&#8217;s rhetoric.<br />
The police took the person away.<br />
Why wouldn&#8217;t they give him/her CPR, or tend to them on the scene?<br />
Is this the Secret Service doing this, or thugs assigned to Obama?</p>
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